It's pointless trying to suggest improvements or variations, as the design for these is already set in stone. It's just a question of what extent they're going to screw with gameplay. Case in-point: Heavy assault cruisers, Marauders and the new Rapid light and heavy missile launchers. Constructive criticism will be conveniently ignored; negative feedback will be used as justification for ignoring the thread entirely...

They are absolutely livid and afraid over the thought that EVE might get a little harder for them. The MSI is an excellent tool that will force aggressors to take risks for a change while simultaneously providing a much needed layer of protection for PVE ops.

It is just a vocal minority spamming the thread with one-sided nonsense.

that woudl be incredbly overpowered. PVP woudl be only smartbombing battleships with those.

Ok everyone, here is our first round of changes since the beginning of public feedback. These are some quite large changes but we think the end result is a much stronger design.

Mobile Micro Jump Unit

We're cutting the EHP of the structure by 80%, to 5000hp.
We're increasing the time that the MJU takes to activate to 1 minute.
We're increasing the range at which the MJU can be used to 5000m.
We're increasing the minimum range from other MJU structures to 10km.
We're disabling the ability to jump while cloaked.

Mobile Scan Inhibitor

Ships inside the area of a MSI's effect will have their own directional scanner and probe results disabled.
We're adding a minimum distance of 75km from wormholes.
We're reducing the sensor strength of the structure to 5 and increasing the signature radius to 500. Go ahead and apply as many projected ECCM to that as you want.
We're increasing the build cost to ~15m isk.
We're decreasing the structure's lifetime in space to 1 hour.
Minimum distance to another MSI is now 100km.
We're increasing the volume of the structure to 100m3.


I'll be updating the OP momentarily.

Yes. They won't get results from ships anywhere, outside the MSI or within the same MSI as them (but those sips are right beside them so it doesn't really matter).

Ships inside the MSI will still get results on things like signatures, celestials, beacons, stuff that the MSI doesn't block.

Forgot about them. Personally I would say that if a dictor or hictor uses it's bubble then the MSI should become disabled until that bubble is either taken down or expires. Hictors could obviously still use focused points without disabling the effect.

let me put it this way:

you are in a farming station sistem, and there is a hostile roaming gang in the area, several jumps out; you undock your fleet, go into an anomally, anchor a msi and a bubble, and wait; at some point the roaming gang will come into your system, theyr scout will scan and see the msi in the annomally, and there is where he's troubles began:
being a st system, he have no way to know how many ppl are doked;
and if he's in anything else than a nullified cloacky t3, if he choose to check that anomally with a msi in it, he's dead; even in an inty he will have to chose between dieing to a smartbomb bs as he's landing, or to a fast locking sniper that will puff him out of the sky in 2"
this msi thing give way too much options to the defenders while leaving the attackers with only one: use a nullified cloacky t3 for scouting

I had exploration T3s in mind. You often do not want the covops subsystem on them, since it completely ruins your damage.

You do run into serious space issues. Maybe not in a legion that uses no kinds of charges, but you're severely limited with anything else, especially if you want to take loot back with you. an MSI would be even worse.

We get it, you want solo PVErs to stay in high sec. Your wish has been granted via nerfs to the MSI.

No, it clearly isn't. Because no solo PVErs are ever going to use the MSI its its current iteration. Thus, increasing the likelyhood that it will be a trap.

I know being an EVE pirate doesn't require much intelligence, but wtf?

We're increasing the build cost to ~15m isk. ~Nope.
We're decreasing the structure's lifetime in space to 1 hour. ~Nope.
Minimum distance to another MSI is now 100km. ~Fine.
We're increasing the volume of the structure to 100m3. ~Woah. Nope. Nope. Nope.

That is pretty much the issue (as far as I can tell) that people have with the no-scan change. Med-Large groups are not effected at all by the change since they already have the manpower to bypass the drawback. It only really affects those who do not. vOv

IMO its not a huge issue since WH residents come prepared to run multiple accounts. The place where it will be more noticeable is Kspace.

Basically nerf now, buff later if needed. Fair enough. One of the biggest things that stood out to me was the the MMJU will have 5k EHP and a 1min activation time. If I'm reading that right, it means I hit the jump button on the MMJU and a minute later I micro-jump 100km away.

Seems like an awfully long time. Hopefully I'm reading it wrong.